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"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 01/14/2019 at 10:53 • Filed to: Stealerships, Stealership, Dealers, dealership problems, genesis, genesis g70, genesis g70 3.3t, genesis usa, 2019 genesis g70, 2019 genesis

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But you gotta get the Trucoat!

$10,000 ADM and thousands of pointless useless shit tacked on over a $51K Genesis G70(I mean it’s no M4 GTS) to bump it to an eye watering $65,809

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Dealer website still lists it only at MSRP. The real kicker comes when you email/call them for “the best price” and God forbid you step into their den. 90's Hyundai/KIA dealership mentality like this is what’s going to be hurting Genesis.

CB > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 10:50

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I'd share this with Genesis Corporate, because I'm pretty sure this is against their ethos.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 10:51

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I’m curious to hear about this new pulse brake system. Tell me more.

fintail > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 10:52

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Local dealers had 10K ADMs on Stingers upon introduction. I can’t believe a single one changed hands at those prices, and eventually they ended up with discounts nearly the same as the ADM. I suspect the same will happen here.

I’d pay more to not have pinstriping.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/14/2019 at 10:54

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It’s a Jeep thing bro. Seriously, every new Jeep dealer seems to have that tacked on to new Wranglers.

It’s a lifesaver!

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 10:54

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Total value of dealer add-ons: ($ 10, 000)

fintail > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/14/2019 at 10:54

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I think it might be the CHMSL that blinks a few times upon initial brake activation.  Drives me nuts, and seems to be link to timid slow drivers around here anyway.

Future next gen S2000 owner > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 10:55

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Why do they think they can pull off that up charge? Years ago, when I worked at a Ford dealership, the GT 500 had just come out and they were putting that level of mark up on it. It’s a freaking Genesis, a brand with no history or cache yet. It’s not even in high demand at MSRP.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > CB 01/14/2019 at 10:55

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Someone should tweet them for the fastest response . I do not use twitter though.

Tekamul > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/14/2019 at 10:56

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It’s annoying AF

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Future next gen S2000 owner 01/14/2019 at 10:56

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It’ll languish on the lot for 9 months solid, then they will end up selling it $5K under MSRP. I should add this to my saved vehicles list in Autotrader just to track that.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > fintail 01/14/2019 at 10:57

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Very true. I had saved several Stinger GTs in my Autotrader list just for shits and giggles to see them being advertised for $10K under MSRP 10 months later gathering dust on the lot .

punkgoose17 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 10:58

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Yeah Genesis is going to die. The closest Genesis dealer to me is over 200 miles and 2 states away. They should feel lucky someone wants to buy there cars. There is no room for mark up. They should be throwing cash on the hood with this model . The G70 with a 6 speed is $38,895 after shipping.

CB > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:00

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I don't Twit either.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:00

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200 fucking dollars for a cargo net?!

300 for tint? They’d have to give me 300 to take a car with tint.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:01

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I have zero pity for a nyone who’s stupid enough to pay a market adjustment on a car like this. 

benjrblant > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:03

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$300 for wheel locks?!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > punkgoose17 01/14/2019 at 11:04

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They’re on life support right now due to their botched standalone dealership rollout but they won’t die. I am rooting for them as the underdog . They will take many years to do great, but they will get there. This is because they are a real value player in the luxury segment, They have the potential to become the Infinti of the 2000s- Sporty German Alternative that’s cheaper but more reliable. don’t look at their lineup just now with 3 cars only, The GV80 crossover is coming soon and they will expand that crossover lineup.

BUT they need to fix their dealers and really provide that luxury experience , and get down hard into crossovers, electrification and hybrids if they don’ t want to die 10- 15 years from now.

Jayhawk Jake > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:04

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That explains SO MUCH. I keep seeing this on Hyundais and Kias especially, and didn’t think it was a factory thing. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > benjrblant 01/14/2019 at 11:04

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Best price take it or leave it

WilliamsSW > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 01/14/2019 at 11:05

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Wheel locks for $299 - that would be a fair price, *IF* you moved the decimal place over 1 slot.

fintail > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:06

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Same thing happened here, I think.  A GT2 that was something like 65K after ADM was still sitting there months later, now with a significant discount.   It makes me wonder if anyone even cares. 

jimz > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:06

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Good luck with that, Jenkins. And cram your “Value Package” in your cram-hole. 

DipodomysDeserti > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:07

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$1,200 for a “pulse brake system”? Is ABS still an add on for Hyndais?

fhrblig > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:07

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Once w hen I had my Fiat 500 I took it to the dealer to have something repaired under warranty, and I walked around the showroom looking at the new ones. They had a new 500 with a “Denver Market Adjustment” of $5k. Not a 500X, mind you, nor an Abarth. IT WAS A POP.

It’s rough going when your stupidity has balls. That dealer isn’t there anymore, but before they died they always had way too many of the previous model year 500s that were new in their inventory. I can’t imagine why.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > DipodomysDeserti 01/14/2019 at 11:08

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It pulses with the music you’re currently playing. Extra points if it’s  K-pop

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > WilliamsSW 01/14/2019 at 11:11

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seriously, it’s just a special lug nut right? All of my cars have come with them, so I thought it was a standard thing these days. But I only buy used cars.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:13

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Oh I thought it was something useful . It’s just a middle aged balding guy talking about how he got the third brake light to blink 3 times.

His Stigness > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:13

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I had a local dealer add $10, ooo on the MKVI Golf R and when I asked what the hell that was about, the salesman said it was because they were rare.

They had THREE in the showroom.

vicali > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:13

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They know what they have.

LJ909 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:13

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WTF. I really cant stand dealers. At this price you could get a G90 or K900. You’d be a fool to pay that for a G70, no matter how good it is.

Urambo Tauro > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:14

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“ Flashing lights are illegal on cars. Our product pulses; it does no t flash.”

!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > jimz 01/14/2019 at 11:14

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2017 numbers are more indicative of what real sales would have been for 2018, and possibly add extra 3 0% for G70s to that number in 2019, But the sharp decline was due to them stopping sales at almost all Hyundai-Genesis co- branded dealerships until they were re licensed to operate and later build standalone. Hopefully it will be done end of this year, and by that time the GV80 crossover will be out as well. Let’s see.

In any case your point still stands. They should consider themselves lucky to have people want to buy the cars in the first place. GOOD FUCKING LUCK YOU GREEDY BASTARDS!

jimz > Tekamul 01/14/2019 at 11:15

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that’s the point.  flashing grabs your attention quicker; a lot of motorcycle folks put these things on.  IIRC the idea came from Formula 1. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > fhrblig 01/14/2019 at 11:16

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They had a new 500 with a “Denver Market Adjustment” of $5k. Not a 500X, mind you, nor an Abarth. IT WAS A POP.

Urambo Tauro > DipodomysDeserti 01/14/2019 at 11:16

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It’s the light that pulses, which makes that price even more ridiculous.

jimz > fintail 01/14/2019 at 11:16

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“pinstriping” is how you know the dealer owner/manager is an old guy.  

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:16

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I’m going to be doing a write-up soon on our experiences with Hyundai/Genesis since we’ve now experienced it from both sides, but the long and short is that your statement about the Hyundai/Kia mentality threatening Genesis is spot on.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > His Stigness 01/14/2019 at 11:16

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The R in Golf R stands for “Rare” dontchya know?

jimz > CB 01/14/2019 at 11:17

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unfortunately state franchise laws protect dealers from repercussions for stuff like this.  Pretty much the only sure fire way for a car company to yank a franchise is for fraud. 

WilliamsSW > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 01/14/2019 at 11:17

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A couple of years ago, I bought afterm arket wheels for my BMW, so I bought locks at the same time - that car uses bolts not nuts, and I think a set of 4 was $ 30 maybe from Tire Rack?

I mean, come on - it’s FOUR nuts/ bolts and a key to unlock them. That’s it. Plus 5 minutes of labor I suppose.

jimz > Urambo Tauro 01/14/2019 at 11:18

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yeah, the ones you can get for bikes are well under $50. 

Tekamul > jimz 01/14/2019 at 11:19

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Its always helpful to antagonize drivers around you.

CB > jimz 01/14/2019 at 11:19

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Well that’s bullshit.

Urambo Tauro > benjrblant 01/14/2019 at 11:19

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Must be those fancy ultra-high-security one-time-use wheel locks that seize, round off, or break the key, and have to be drilled out. Great deterrent.

jimz > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/14/2019 at 11:19

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I wouldn’t even limit it to “a car like this.”  

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 01/14/2019 at 11:20

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To be fair, I have had excellent experience with the local Kia dealer - both when we bought our Niro and subsequent services, and when I test drove a Stinger GT.

Even the local Hyundai-Genesis dealer was cool when I test drove multiple Genesi. But didn’t have to deal with them to buy/lease or service.

But looks like a majority of of the Kiyundai dealers still operate with that buy here pay here used lot mentality. It’s unfortnate that it turns people away from some very strongly competitive products.

His Stigness > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:21

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I thought it was, “R you fucking kidding me?!?!”

This was actually the same dealer I got my TDI from, and the same one I ran away from when I got the e-Golfs.

Working for a dealer will do that to you.

jimz > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 01/14/2019 at 11:22

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it’s like Japanese car dealers of the 1990s all over again. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > jimz 01/14/2019 at 11:32

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This is a good point. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > LJ909 01/14/2019 at 11:32

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Brand new K900s are selling for $10K off MSRP already.

WilliamsSW > jimz 01/14/2019 at 11:35

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Except back then, suckers would just pay up for Hondas and Toyotas, because Japanese.

Nowadays, I can’t imagine that people are falling for this crap for a Genesis.

Then again, all it takes is 1 sucker...

WilliamsSW > benjrblant 01/14/2019 at 11:36

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Hey - only like $280 of that is dealer profit.

Gerry197 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 11:53

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Yup, big profit margins on those. But if the buyers don’t want them, the dealerships uses them as negotiating tool during the bargaining process.

In San Diego, dealerships here get a lot of Mexican nationals who come across the border to buy cars, they expect the dealers to negotiate high, which is why so many cars here have add-ons that bring up the MSRP.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Urambo Tauro 01/14/2019 at 11:53

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Patented blatant lies. These do in fact FLASH. Pulsing is how I’d describe the brake lights on a 2014 Tahoe, which are seriously slow to fill.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 12:06

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Worth noting, not even bmw dealers want a M4 GTS

DipodomysDeserti > Urambo Tauro 01/14/2019 at 12:21

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Jesus. You can install your own module for $10.

Urambo Tauro > DipodomysDeserti 01/14/2019 at 12:36

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Ha, t hat’s even cheaper than I would have guessed. Geez.

NojustNo > DipodomysDeserti 01/14/2019 at 12:45

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Its a pulsing brake light module. About $20 of hardware for almost 2 grand!

Monkey B > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/14/2019 at 13:07

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I sort of remember that state laws differ when it comes to dealer add ons. Any add on that is “permanent ”, like a sealer or pinstripe, you can by law refuse to pay for here in my state. It’s been a number of years since so I’ll ask the dealers I service about it.

No dealer that I service usually adds anything more than pinstripes and door edge guards. Nothing like the services on that add on sticker such as service loaners, paint protection, etc. etc. Those things are offered add on it ems in the finance office while signing paperwork. I believe it’s done that way here due to law stating customers aren’t required to pay for it if added without their consent.